Get the best prices and best selection at Micro Center: rebrand.ly/mdadm
WD_BLACK SN850: rebrand.ly/ubhh5
Use code LINUS and get 25% off GlassWire at lmg.gg/glasswire
The new lineup of consoles is a pretty sweet deal when you consider the price and performance, but can we build a gaming PC that can thwart these well-optimized gaming boxes? We’re sure going to try!
Buy Intel Xeon E5-2667 (PAID LINK): geni.us/TW5xS
Buy MSI GTX 1070 ARMOR 8G OC (PAID LINK): geni.us/DSau
Buy Rosewill FBM-X1 Case (PAID LINK): geni.us/dSeL81
Buy ADATA SU635 240GB SSD (PAID LINK): geni.us/bKROpf3
Purchases made through some store links may provide some compensation to Linus Media Group.
Discuss on the forum: linustechtips.com/topic/1298281-pc-master-race-beating-the-series-x/
►GET MERCH: www.LTTStore.com/
►SUPPORT US ON FLOATPLANE: www.floatplane.com/
►LTX EXPO: www.ltxexpo.com/
AFFILIATES & REFERRALS
---------------------------------------------------
►Affiliates, Sponsors & Referrals: lmg.gg/sponsors
►Check out our podcast gear: kit.co/linustechtips/lmg-podcast-gear
►Private Internet Access VPN: lmg.gg/pialinus2
►Our Official Charging Partner Anker: lmg.gg/AnkerLTT
►MK Keyboards: lmg.gg/LyLtl
►Nerd or Die Stream Overlays: lmg.gg/avLlO
►NEEDforSEAT Gaming Chairs: lmg.gg/DJQYb
►Displate Metal Prints: lmg.gg/displateltt
►Official Game Store: www.nexus.gg/ltt
►Epic Games Store (LINUSMEDIAGROUP): lmg.gg/kRTpY
►Amazon Prime: lmg.gg/8KV1v
►Audible Free Trial: lmg.gg/8242J
►Streamlabs Prime: geni.us/cOHCiHh
►Our Gear on Amazon: geni.us/OhmF
FOLLOW US ELSEWHERE
---------------------------------------------------
Twitter: twitter.com/linustech
Facebook: facebook.com/LinusTech
Instagram: instagram.com/linustech
Twitch: www.twitch.tv/linustech
FOLLOW OUR OTHER CHANNELS
---------------------------------------------------
Techquickie: lmg.gg/techquickieyt
TechLinked: lmg.gg/techlinkedyt
ShortCircuit: lmg.gg/shortcircuityt
LMG Clips: lmg.gg/lmgclipsyt
Channel Super Fun: lmg.gg/channelsuperfunyt
Carpool Critics: lmg.gg/carpoolcriticsyt
MUSIC CREDIT
---------------------------------------------------
Title: Laszlo - Supernova
Video Link: sltoos.info/for/tXyc3s96i2qdvI4/video
iTunes Download Link: itunes.apple.com/us/album/supernova/id936805712
Artist Link: soundcloud.com/laszlomusic
Outro Screen Music Credit: Approaching Nirvana - Sugar High sltoos.info
Monitor And Keyboard by vadimmihalkevich / CC BY 4.0 geni.us/PgGWp
Mechanical RGB Keyboard by BigBrotherECE / CC BY 4.0 geni.us/mj6pHk4
Mouse Gamer free Model By Oscar Creativo / CC BY 4.0 geni.us/Ps3XfE
WD_BLACK SN850: rebrand.ly/ubhh5
Use code LINUS and get 25% off GlassWire at lmg.gg/glasswire
The new lineup of consoles is a pretty sweet deal when you consider the price and performance, but can we build a gaming PC that can thwart these well-optimized gaming boxes? We’re sure going to try!
Buy Intel Xeon E5-2667 (PAID LINK): geni.us/TW5xS
Buy MSI GTX 1070 ARMOR 8G OC (PAID LINK): geni.us/DSau
Buy Rosewill FBM-X1 Case (PAID LINK): geni.us/dSeL81
Buy ADATA SU635 240GB SSD (PAID LINK): geni.us/bKROpf3
Purchases made through some store links may provide some compensation to Linus Media Group.
Discuss on the forum: linustechtips.com/topic/1298281-pc-master-race-beating-the-series-x/
►GET MERCH: www.LTTStore.com/
►SUPPORT US ON FLOATPLANE: www.floatplane.com/
►LTX EXPO: www.ltxexpo.com/
AFFILIATES & REFERRALS
---------------------------------------------------
►Affiliates, Sponsors & Referrals: lmg.gg/sponsors
►Check out our podcast gear: kit.co/linustechtips/lmg-podcast-gear
►Private Internet Access VPN: lmg.gg/pialinus2
►Our Official Charging Partner Anker: lmg.gg/AnkerLTT
►MK Keyboards: lmg.gg/LyLtl
►Nerd or Die Stream Overlays: lmg.gg/avLlO
►NEEDforSEAT Gaming Chairs: lmg.gg/DJQYb
►Displate Metal Prints: lmg.gg/displateltt
►Official Game Store: www.nexus.gg/ltt
►Epic Games Store (LINUSMEDIAGROUP): lmg.gg/kRTpY
►Amazon Prime: lmg.gg/8KV1v
►Audible Free Trial: lmg.gg/8242J
►Streamlabs Prime: geni.us/cOHCiHh
►Our Gear on Amazon: geni.us/OhmF
FOLLOW US ELSEWHERE
---------------------------------------------------
Twitter: twitter.com/linustech
Facebook: facebook.com/LinusTech
Instagram: instagram.com/linustech
Twitch: www.twitch.tv/linustech
FOLLOW OUR OTHER CHANNELS
---------------------------------------------------
Techquickie: lmg.gg/techquickieyt
TechLinked: lmg.gg/techlinkedyt
ShortCircuit: lmg.gg/shortcircuityt
LMG Clips: lmg.gg/lmgclipsyt
Channel Super Fun: lmg.gg/channelsuperfunyt
Carpool Critics: lmg.gg/carpoolcriticsyt
MUSIC CREDIT
---------------------------------------------------
Title: Laszlo - Supernova
Video Link: sltoos.info/for/tXyc3s96i2qdvI4/video
iTunes Download Link: itunes.apple.com/us/album/supernova/id936805712
Artist Link: soundcloud.com/laszlomusic
Outro Screen Music Credit: Approaching Nirvana - Sugar High sltoos.info
Monitor And Keyboard by vadimmihalkevich / CC BY 4.0 geni.us/PgGWp
Mechanical RGB Keyboard by BigBrotherECE / CC BY 4.0 geni.us/mj6pHk4
Mouse Gamer free Model By Oscar Creativo / CC BY 4.0 geni.us/Ps3XfE
Why they never benchmark with warzone
Ow well, just get some games from torrents and you can even things out lol
Linus is the most biased lol, asking Collin to stop being biased lol
So although the Xbox series x is the better price. But is it the better value... No. Can you do your job on Xbox when you aren't gaming? (assuming you aren't a streamer haha). Can you play an assortment of emulated browser games? A PC just allows you to do anything you want to do and play games. So that crappy PC is still a better value Imo.
Don't even Mention you have to pay $70 per next gen game and pay $59.99 online a year
doom eternal literally runs on a switch. you shoulda tried something like the medium with rt on or cyberpunk, not games that were already 4K 60 on a one x a year ago.
Haha. Really? You wanna try Cyberpunk? On a Xbox? Vs a pc!?
Doom Eternal "black levels" difference was because the Series X is running 4k/60 with HDR, your 1070 said "HDR Off." You turn HDR on the 1070 and your frame rate will drop pretty dramatically.
It wasn't because of HDR..
Bruh HDR doesn't effect performance lmao
So the pc only just kept up, take home message, yeah Xbox is better value for money with gaming... but you can do 1000x more things with that pc PLUS game... also pc has no ceiling if you want to upgrade, xbox is stuck where it is. Consoles have always been the cheap and easy method.
Oh yes I love paying cheap $70 per game and $59.99 a year
Build it to the series x BOM. Before they sell it for a loss.
Sorry but the math was wrong. You need to include the misstep items and pilfered freebie that was a money loss towards your total. Maybe you could get a replacement or refund but who knows. This is all part of the PC master race life which is the other hidden bonus to getting the console. There is more capability in a PC for sure but at what price?
The math is correct, sorry. The more capability comes at $600 bucks already....
I set my resolution lower so the scaling is larger, not knowing that I could just manually set the scaling myself, I held myself back from the world of 4k, and I hate myself for it
the xbox series x is a console that is a 1200 dollar pc
A big compromise is the lack of a 1tb nvme ssd. I would've been fine with a 2gb/s qlc nand ssd, as these cost about the same as m.2 sata drives. Tha would have been a big fat MUST for a "Same-Price Console Killer"
@Acrylico There will always be drawbags that Consolegamers like me would really miss turning to PC. And I know wht I'm speaking, I love PCs and think I got myself a real good knowledge about hardware. But I have no real need for a high performance system. I'm like experimenting with my System all the time and love that. Unfortunatly my GTX 970 quit services 2weeks after I bought it. Only backup I have is a gtx 560 at the moment on a Celeron J1900 that actually outperforms a PS4 Slim. I got a Ryzen 1300x trying to get to work a B350 Mobo with damaged socket. But unfortunatly couldn't afford some Ram so far. So gotta borrow some from a friend for testing and save for at least 8gigs single stick till I can afford a second stick.
@Acrylico nah not really. SSDs are not much more expensive then they were ever before. The lowest I saw 1tb nvme is the crucial p1 for around 100$ at the moment it is think like at 110$. You just can't build a PC matching every great feature of a console, matching the performance. Because Windows will always take away a good margin of the performace for (at least in gaming terms speaking) unnecesary background utilities. I'd love if Microsoft released a pure Gaming oriented windows version, that focuses on pure performance optimisation.
Once prices lower it'll be easy as cake
.... ill take the xbox. lol
Interesting. My next console will almost certainly be a pc
Not in any way, it's just a console
A $500 bucks pc that is very very restricted, yes.
what all of you are forgetting is that, microsoft and sony can afford to build and sell these systems at a huge loss. piece by piece trying to build one to get the same performance is easy, but we forget that they can build a 1000$ machine and sell it for 400. YOU cannot build a 400$ system and pretend it's gonna compete. maybe in a year or so for sure though.
How does the pc run call of duty
There is a fram rate counter on Xbox if I’d in the settings
Is Windows free now?
Yeah
there is no console that can compare to a expensive custom build pc.
When do we factor in the Monthly PSN or Xbox live subscription cost?
PC master race Uses console Controllers
Pc is about the platmfotm it’s played on, not the method of input
The way he slammed the xbox down on the desk ouch
This video was funny lol. The cardboard fire hazard 😂
PC is the "Master Race" of the gaming universe not because it outperforms consoles, at the same price point, but because you have the option of going all out. Whereas you can't really upgrade a console. Let's see a console compete against a $2k PC. PC is to Console, as Gated Community is to Trailer Park. (to be fair though, they probably do both have a fence that runs the length of the property line!)
lol even a $1000 pc has more value, they have to pay $70 for one game and $59.99 a year
Console for children - Pc is for men with jobs and money.... the plebs can keep their toy consoles... What this proves more than anything though is that all the tech used in the machine is prior to 2014 it really shows that an xbox is trash comparatively 6 years later with new tech...
🤦🏾♂️that’s just untrue. There are plenty people with money who just don’t care enough about gaming to buy a dedicated gaming pc
Money wise consoles will always win.
Not always...but for like the first 5years of it’s lifetime that’s true
Part 2. What’s the minimum amount of money you’d have to spend to get the same quality as the Xbox X
Wait a little longer, until prices drop
They just did that tho..
Dang. . . You got ripped off for the controller. . . I got about 4 controllers (360 knock offs) for $13 each on amazon. . . SMH To be fair, I also go wired due to latency and easier connectivity to my laptop Three were black and one was blue.
1070 Would have been cheaper if you could get hold of 30Series or 20Series or AMD5000&6000 Graphics cards new at this time
jesus this guys just turning into click bait trash.
@------------ I already check listed the signs of clickbait selectively not acknowledging that suggest this content format is perfect for you....bet most of your suggested videos list thumbnails pictures include a big red arrow
@Rustojaw 🤦🏾♂️🤨The title is literally what the video is! You don’t know what clickbait even means.
@------------ over dramatic title with conflicting information with cringe pic...its click bait...dont like the content ? while the quality and fact checking has dropped it'd not terrible but we better
@Rustojaw You might not like his content, but this video wasn’t clickbait at all.
@------------ as some.one who's been watching his older videos yes he is..
Unless graphics is the absolute be all and end all, having a 'good' PC isn't about all of that. Having a good PC is more about the versatility it gives you. Consoles go out of date very quickly with the constant battling of competitors and I've had a 1070 in my rig for years and not changed my rig for years. Might not mean I can play games at super ultra settings but I can mod games, play games from years back (with some tweaking), play newer games at lower settings (but still play them), watch Netflix and surf the web without extra hidden subscription charges. I spent a price to build my PC and it still serves me fine. If I want to make a change then I can but I don't think any game justifies me whacking out a fortune just for better graphics right now.
Would love to see a new Scrapyard Wars #longtimeviewer
Excelente video!
I know this, in Ontario a $500 Pc is trash, my $1700 Pc from 2016 cant even compare to the new consols. Im not building a PC with next generation consol hardware around here for anything less than $2000+ MsRp retail/New. PC gaming sux nowadays, theres no physical games anymore they have been discontinued for a decade now and games are all Digital (Eww) And the fact that PC hardware costs 3X4 more than a consol of equivalent hardware. If i even want any RtX gpu i have to go through Staples or Walmart lol, my local PC store thats been around 20 years doesnt even want to deal with RTX 20 series cards because there crazy expensive, and the RtX 30 series cards are difficult to get. After 20 years being a PC gamer, i now prefer consol. XbSX is a great system, not state of the art but definitely high end. But PlayStation 5s my favorite and primary gaming platform,and PlayStations controllers are unbeatable...I do love PCs and spent so many years building them but theres no motivation anymore. PC Master Nothing....IMO..
@ArcaneVoid i live near Toronto dude, close to London, Kitchener etc. Theres not alot of profit in PCs anymore, at least for the moment. Linus makes a video every month about insulting consols and how awfull they are, even though there accually pretty Amazing. Someone has to speak up and say something, and Yes i know Linus is a PC hardware GOD. But No wonder why theres Wars on what system platform is best, its Linus enabling it and feading the Fire.
sounds more like a you thing than a whole platform
"the crummy controller" Bitch, you got keyboard & mouse! The Hell you need controller for? For RTS?
Can those dirty console peasants mine with their consoles?
Time for reality check. As much as I adore PC gaming. This video is dumbest at best. Firstly the build does not really match. Completely different generation. Bring a PC person should know well enough mhz and tflops don't mean anything between 2 complete different architectures. Besides trying to match something from 2nd market just to get the price against something brand new. This is really misleading and toxic
It’s not toxic
Then get a 3060, problem fixed. It was to match for the cheapest price, not surpass.
What did you think the point of this video is? The video was about trying to match the consoles perf at the same price and given every advantage to the PCMR. Secondly, why is the video misleading? The first 30 second is him explaining what the video is all about and the title wasn't misleading either, it said "PCMR tries to beat the Xbox series X" not "PCMR beat the Xbox series X"
least this PC works all the time.
Lol.. so much effort. if you bought that 6900k for 130...it would be from Russia.. go back and look at the listing he showed..
sees controller que vomiting
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
In my mind, you don't need to beat a $500 console. You need to beat a $500 console and a $500 laptop, minimum. Most people have at least one PC in their house. If it's for gaming purpose, it's a $400-500 GPU and a $500-600 build on the rest of the components.
Price for price you can't get the same performance as the xbox series X. Simple!
The reason for this video: PC parts are way too overpriced.
Now imagine that in 5 years you'll have to get an entirely new console, while the pc will get an extra 500 bucks to upgrade, not counting the cheaper games. Yeah.
@------------ I was talking about backwards compatibility, something alien to most consoles (except xbox).
@MetalHev if you buy your games digitally like most people, that won’t be an issue.
that's good, you'll only lose your entire library every 7 years instead.
You won’t have to. Btw a console generation is 7 years
I feel so bad for my Xbox One X. I bought it 4 years ago, and it's just been collecting dust on my dresser ever since. PC gaming is top tier, so that's all I do. I'm not even sure why I bought the xbox in the first place.
Lol weak
The wide-eyed avenue electrophoretically switch because age enzymatically glue minus a attractive smash. difficult, valuable second
used products, hassle of dealing with stuff that don't work, inferior and less storage space, lack of controller, wifi and bluray, wired c class controller, still more expensive, worse performance than console and occupying way much space, vs brand new console with controller with warranty and performance for less. -> I guess the answer is obvious.
@Asfandyar Suleman pc parts last a very long time, especially when looked after. 5 years is nothing. you are limited to one drive on console unless you go external, you can have pretty much as many as you want on pc. controller is not the way to play, it is objectively worse for pretty much all games except racing games and a few others. it is good for the consumer but the only reason they do it is to bring you in and make money off subscriptions and more expensive games. idk what small form factor pcs your looking at. bigger is not better for displays, TVs have much higher input lag, and the ones that most people use are upwards of 20ms. you can tell the difference between 1080 and 4k on a 24 inch, and 4k is pointless in the first place.
@Asfandyar Suleman You could get the new 3060 gpu instead of the 1070 and some extra space, so then it'll be better with more storage and it will work and all. Btw, it is still cheaper, *even* if it's $600 because they don't force you to pay online on pc and have way cheaper games. 🤷♂️
@Alt Acc only if trump is the President of the whole world :-P .
@ArcaneVoid bro I respect your opinion but unfortunately its not correct, as per my belief. Old stuff means stuff that has spent some time of its life and is somewhat closer to getting broken. You can have more storage on pc? well you so can have on PS4 with bigger drive. Controller is the way to play, unless you playing any AOE, SIMS kinda game. if the consoles are sold at loss, isnt that good for the consumer??? why we arguing this point. the small form factor pc exist but they perform relatively bad as compared to even old consoles. . TV are the displays bro the bigger they are the cooler the experience. i dont understand the need to gaming 4k on 24" monitor, i mean you can't differentiate between 1080 and 4k on 24". the pixel density is already too high. I hope it would be convincing.
Is the answer pc?
It's hard to beat console prices when companies sell them at a loss
paying $60 a year to play online has entered the chat
but now account for the fact that microsoft 100% gets bulk deals on their parts and linus did not therefore pc is better
Yes but, is the x box future proof?
Your'e forgetting that Consoles cost more to build than they are being sold for. The sell the consoles at a loss to bring in revenue from Games, especially exclusive games. You never stood a chance. You'd probably need $750 to be competitive.
Your budget should have been the cost of Xbox Series X for gaming + the cost of Chromebook for browsing and other stuff. Targeting just $500 misses the point that people probably have a cheap computer for doing the other stuff your gaming PC will do.
@cromnio Nope. My point is that if they are opting for a gaming PC or a gaming laptop, then the budget should be higher than the cost of Xbox Series X since a PC/laptop will "likely" be used for non-gaming stuff too. Again, I'm talking only about those who have/will choose a PC/laptop as their primary gaming device over an Xbox Series X. I also understand that there will be a nominal exception to this, but in the majority of the cases, the budget should be higher.
@Mukesh Angrish My point was that the budget shouldn't be increased because in most cases people already have a laptop. Your point was people had to choose between buying either a laptop and the series x or buy a pc, so therefore the budget should be increased. Is this correct?
@cromnio I understand your point. However, you completely misunderstood my comment. I'm not arguing if a console can be replaced by a PC. That's what the video is trying to do. I only said that their budget for this kind of video should have been higher, since a person using a laptop/PC for gaming would not need another similar computing device (laptop/PC) just for browsing and other stuff.
that argument does and doesn't work. Let's say a guy wants to buy a gaming device to play modern AAA title and would like convenience(i.e not setting up a pc for example), and he already has a laptop(a reality for most people tbh). The consoles are perfect for this type of people because it ticks all 3 things, he just want to sit down and play with consistency(i.e nearly every game on the consoles is guaranteed to run at their rated res and fps), he doesn't have to do anything other than insert his credit card here and credit card there, he doesn't need a another pc.
+ the games on console are more expensive.
I bought a ps4 in 2015 and I still use it to this day and now I'm saving up for a pc because I do want something new because playing for 6 years on a ps4 kinda makes me want to get something new
Did Win10 come for free? Thought you have to pay if you don't have a spare win7 key lying around?
Wow it's almost like consoles are an amazing price to performance thanks to standardization and mass production. Who knew that consoles are actually a great choice for a reliable and arguably great gaming experience? Oh wait I did and I game on both consoles and PC.
I recently switched to PC. Not because of performance, but just convenience. I like having one device that can do all my computing needs. Gaming, word processing, programming, etc. It's nice having a place to do all things. That being said the Xbox series x is pretty sweet and the price point is bang on. Bang for the buck if you are looking for just a gaming rig the Xbox is not a bad way to go given the price of current gen hardware.
You look homeless. Clean up bro
@HimFasting 🤦🏾♂️just quit dude. He likes how he looks and that’s all that matters. And those two businesses are most likely worth less than 30% of Linus’s net worth
@Acrylico good try, but no! I am college educated, and own two businesses. Meanwhile, none if that changes that he looks like shit. #next
Are you sad you are not as successful as he is?
PC is king although, I still like my playstation
@Acrylico mobile is fine...considering you don’t really have to buy anything extra to play