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  • Scotch Barrel
    Scotch Barrel

    You need battlenonsense to explain the bottle neck.

  • Martin Roupé
    Martin Roupé

    Looks like Linus has pink lipstick.. O.o

  • István Nagy
    István Nagy

    > once and for all. You mean, for this specific setup. There's like a million different combinations out there in the wild.

  • ludnorc
    ludnorc

    Input layg

  • High Voltage
    High Voltage

    Thank you for this video, this is very useful information!

  • ZagatoZee
    ZagatoZee

    Now test Audio Latency, since for games that matter, on console or PC - that is a far bigger problem than video latency. 40ms of video latency is barely noticeable. 40ms of audio latency is a deal breaker. Try playing Rocksmith on anything with 40ms or more of audio latency for eg.

  • TheCy-FiJuggernaut
    TheCy-FiJuggernaut

    Anyone else have audio distortions when Linus touched his mic or something?

  • Thelan Studio
    Thelan Studio

    5:15 he miss the checkpoints on Forza Horizon 4 Race

  • Tim Soethe
    Tim Soethe

    #gamerphile

  • Lucas Nicodemus
    Lucas Nicodemus

    You should use the LDAT to measure latency of gaming streaming services in some matrix like this: Shadow, Stadia, GeForce Now on Mac, Linux, and Windows clients. There's a super underreported issue here. A lot of people choose streaming because they want to play on weird hardware (like Mac users). But many of the streaming clients don't play nicely with the underlying systems they're running on (e.g., macOS). It'd be really interesting to see if the typical latency varies depending on the OS + client, because I'd imagine a pretty wide amount of variance between something like macOS Quartz + average Linux compositor + Windows.

  • Kenneth Pippin
    Kenneth Pippin

    So if you’re using stadia through all of those devices, does the positive latency from the devices add with the negative latency to make 0 latency? Or is it multiplicative where you’re multiplying a negative number by a positive one to further increase the negative latency?

  • forestR1
    forestR1

    THEY ARE TESTING ELGATTO LATANCY

  • nin spearing
    nin spearing

    cant get arc to work so i have to thew av reciver

  • Ron Morris
    Ron Morris

    Sony should Take pride in that Latency(Or Lack thereof) and advertise it as a selling feature. Also they should sponsor you.

  • Ani Shikima
    Ani Shikima

    So many problems getting my Elgoto HD60s just going between the TV and PS4. I gave up on using it. It would work after anywhere from 15 minutes to an hour+ of messing with it.

  • Jon Pileot
    Jon Pileot

    LTT what happened to not having clickbait titles?

  • User Name
    User Name

    Is there a benefit in terms of delay by cloning the game on your graphic card's outputs and feeding one into the monitor, the other one into the elgato?

  • ardschuna88
    ardschuna88

    Why is Linus wearing a wool hat in latest videos? Because virus restrictions preventing a proper haircut? xD

  • Prezla men
    Prezla men

    Only one good thing on this channel for time being is that pillow

  • n00bnetrum
    n00bnetrum

    >copy protection ruins performance AGAIN Pirates always win.

  • Martin Lowes
    Martin Lowes

    Nice hat😊

  • J B
    J B

    I'd say a better approach for recording would be to connect the TV/monitor and the recording device to separate outputs on the video card. Then configure Windows to duplicate the display (instead of Extend), and send audio to the recording device. From there you could extract audio from the recording device's output, so the only latency is on the audio. I'd be surprised if people could identify 20ms of audio lag.

  • Samuel Lund
    Samuel Lund

    Okay but the real question is who is WHO DAT?

  • sascha1096
    sascha1096

    What about delay from a HDMIeARC connection ? Nobod talks about that topic. Its just stupid having high quality audio dealy when you can trade it for "non noticeable" 8ms of lag when connecting your consol or whatever directly to a soundbar.

  • Gone1229
    Gone1229

    i work in the event industry and hdcp can be a real hastle there too.

  • Kaukus Anotherone
    Kaukus Anotherone

    Wow.. 2:45 THATS a fkn add xD

  • Chris L
    Chris L

    6:35 okay, but what's going on here? I am incredibly confused.

  • Aakash Gautam
    Aakash Gautam

    7:46 "linus_6brain9.exe" Me: "Nice!"

  • Jez B
    Jez B

    Gnome

  • Irrespons
    Irrespons

    Omg, I was searching for this information forever, want to purchase a "gaming" tv and they are expensive!

  • Space Force
    Space Force

    Not a bad price for a 4k TV I Think..

  • Alex Harland
    Alex Harland

    Often an AVR manufacturer won't advertise latency figures because that's not the target market.

  • JSRDaan
    JSRDaan

    Crypto mining update pls

  • Blubus
    Blubus

    I really like that CPU pillow. Didn't know it was a thing.

  • Mad Cv
    Mad Cv

    I have around 60 ms on league of legends, witch is OK for playing, I got used to it 60+40 from this makes 100 ms drastic changes in gameplay with 100 ms, will decrease player's performance

  • Ryan's Random Shop
    Ryan's Random Shop

    Please do a follow-up with more tests with different recievers or sound bars

  • Jp Johnson
    Jp Johnson

    love the beard and the new smile thank you for your content and your team as well

  • undead king
    undead king

    6:37 the moths have risen

  • BCtechsupply
    BCtechsupply

    This video was a lot of fun to listen to. Thanks Linus.

  • quran reciter aamair
    quran reciter aamair

    Hey who dat??

  • lastshoelace
    lastshoelace

    why don't you all link the verbally recommended videos in the notes section? I'd be curious to check out the video, but since you have...difficult to search titles, it isn't as easy as it COULD be.

  • Platinum Adventures
    Platinum Adventures

    One should try the HDFury 4K Diva

  • Jerad Berry
    Jerad Berry

    why are TVs, even gaming TVs, typically 10x or greater the latency of gaming monitors?

    • freedustin
      freedustin

      The screens come from a few manufacturers so they are mostly the same. The difference is the controller board. That's where the brand name and model comes in. They decide what features to enable to what extent and implement that on the board that fits their price point for each model they want to sell. Higher quality board + amount of features on board = higher price tv or monitor. All tvs are targeted at the lowest common denominator, so they are cheaper and have lower quality boards.

  • Heath Grogan
    Heath Grogan

    4:40 Linus - "FoUrTyy Milliseconds"

  • Roman Kretzschmar
    Roman Kretzschmar

    Me playing MFS 2020: „Latency...?“ P.S. avg. 13 FPS, Maxed out settings, Dual 1080p monitor, RTX 3070

  • Eric B
    Eric B

    IDK, I think the LTT CPU Pillow should be 199.99 .. I mean.. who's gonna buy it anyways ? :D #YourPillow

  • Anariasis EVE
    Anariasis EVE

    I'm still looking for a way to connect my PC to my TV without plugging in a cable at all. I don't want a cable across the room!

  • Vidura Ravindranath
    Vidura Ravindranath

    I also like to play a game. But there is no money to buy a computer with enough specifications to play games. If there is anyone who can help me make my dream come true as much as possible. Email - viduraravindranath123@gmail.com

  • Geyer128
    Geyer128

    Maby some delay is artificial for syncing with audio.

  • Amaury Jacquot
    Amaury Jacquot

    the final delay is the sum of all devices delay. hdcp doesn't add significant delay, as the key exchange is done on startup. it is a source of things not working properly though.

  • Rusa
    Rusa

    I'll suck regardless of ms.

  • stefano frattini
    stefano frattini

    I can't stop looking at that cable hanging in front of the TV...

  • nycameleon
    nycameleon

    if only the TV had a HDMI out, like eARC for capture after display

  • passerby
    passerby

    first world problems mans i can't take it soz

  • nobodynemoq
    nobodynemoq

    AV Receiver most probably just makes a physical connection with use of relays (you always hear a loud "click" when you change the source), hence the unnoticeable delay.

  • RedDragon
    RedDragon

    I wondered how he stayed alive so long with all the bots around on CSGO in the background, and also how the video ends with a bang! XD

  • Coury Swan
    Coury Swan

    Down voted cause he doesn't drop anything, except for like 1 or so frames.

  • Rick Tim
    Rick Tim

    You need to do more latency test like this since they're so rare to find

  • CountCreep
    CountCreep

    I'm surprised there was no 'HDMI Splitter' option rather than using passthrough although if it was HDCP I guess they'd be in hot water for showing how to strip it.

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  • UNOwenWasHolo
    UNOwenWasHolo

    Careful saying "HDCP" on YT. That sounds demonitizable.

  • Jason Halvorsen
    Jason Halvorsen

    Thank the lord someone did this finally

  • Hotdog Water
    Hotdog Water

    I wish you had added an HDMI balun into the mix. As someone who works with these a ton, ive always wondered how much latency would be added.

  • Wesley Kronmiller
    Wesley Kronmiller

    Moral of the story: an AVR looks really useful for streaming

  • K FOR KHANNAGE
    K FOR KHANNAGE

    Whats with the flying things at 3.36

  • MrRom92DAW
    MrRom92DAW

    It would’ve been interesting to test out simple HDMI switches and splitters. Maybe if there’s a low (no?) latency splitter, the second output can go to any other necessary equipment, like a capture card or whatever

  • Mr gamer 123
    Mr gamer 123

    I have i5 2500 and an intel 3000 pls help I can’t play fortnite

  • Linou Gertz
    Linou Gertz

    "Oh, nice he's dead" great Linus it's 2021 and you finally figured out how Counter-Strike works :)

  • Mommotexx
    Mommotexx

    Writer: DHCP Writer: Who Dat?

  • gaming Prof
    gaming Prof

    Your HDMI cables were too long. Noobs

  • Assassin Spielt
    Assassin Spielt

    What?! The Shroud video is from 2019?!

  • Stefan P
    Stefan P

    Why are you testing latency on a 10 ms tv?

  • FeuFeuAngel
    FeuFeuAngel

    what is up with that shaky camera and mic noises?

  • AT0MAC
    AT0MAC

    Who Dat?

  • Esben Bloch
    Esben Bloch

    WHat is that titel? So close to click bait. Good video, stupid title.

  • Joka6
    Joka6

    What is the y axis? Clicks? Time?

  • NickP03
    NickP03

    Linus I'd click more videos if I could tell what was going on in the title. I swear I watch like 1 lmg video a week now bc I can never tell what is happening the titles are so vague

  • Alberto
    Alberto

    Uhh...DOGECOIN?!

  • SlyNine
    SlyNine

    They probably don't add one extra frame, but rather a few milliseconds of latency. That would explain why more devices don't add more frames of delay. The original frame is probably just getting within the last refresh window. Leaving 8-16ms for everything to reach the next refresh cycle.

  • SlyNine
    SlyNine

    I actually tested that with a camera that can capture 1/500th of a second..

  • ALMASHNI-MAN
    ALMASHNI-MAN

    I don't see the point of this

  • EvilleMayor
    EvilleMayor

    I missed the reason for the random bees...was watching while working. Anyone help me out with why there were two flying bugs around 6:30?

  • TheSliderW
    TheSliderW

    Weird that some sound devices introduce that much video delay when they're only tapping into the audio part. Maybe there is indeed something to do with HDMI copy protection where the entire signal has to be validated even if there is no need for it. Also I'm guessing the Sony receiver isn't doing anything peculiar decoding wise but just passing through the entire signal.

  • cho
    cho

    This is why we can't play Guitar Hero in our friend's lounge room.

  • WalayatFamily
    WalayatFamily

    ADVERT WARNING

  • x35gaming
    x35gaming

    time to throw out my old pioneer then...

  • Sai Namuduri
    Sai Namuduri

    A/V receivers often don't showcase latency numbers because analog components and DSPs don't really have latency lol.

  • Moyo
    Moyo

    thought he was testing buttplugs or something

  • bruh meme
    bruh meme

    6:24 duh that's cause it's sony. feel their controllers and consoles compared to the same generation of microsoft console. the responsiveness difference is incredible. sony might not always be the most polished, or the most secure, but god damn do they know what really makes a game feel good. consistent frame times and as little input lag as possible.

  • TheBsniz
    TheBsniz

    I appreciate Vizio for being an American company making TV's in such a heavily saturated market. So much so I've ignored my Vizio 32" from like 2014 making ocean noises for the first 20 seconds when you turn it on.

  • Kenjuta
    Kenjuta

    wait. how he get a vizio tv in canada? they exited the market there

  • Dave Mk
    Dave Mk

    Yay for the Sony SN1080

  • Spoot
    Spoot

    day one of asking linus to do the dark mode intro more

  • IcarusTech
    IcarusTech

    Videos are sounding more like ads then actual tests :/

  • Nicolai Laquaglia
    Nicolai Laquaglia

    "Let's buy a Visio!" Said no one ever 🤣

    • Scott Schramm
      Scott Schramm

      Yeah Microsoft Visio sucks. But Vizio on the other hand is decent.

    • Sam Arryll
      Sam Arryll

      Depends, if their oled released in Canada I would have

  • Girizcool
    Girizcool

    If it's not zero latency with your gaming rig's setup, in your other video about xbox series x it's direct connection for processing speed... why not just try this similar setup in this video with the xbox series x instead and see if your results will be different? Linus in the other video I watched of yours it did say it had the ability to connect directly in order to process things faster for CPU or GPU part which might be a factor in your experiment for zero latency. Just test it out and see how it goes.

  • Calvin C. Gaming
    Calvin C. Gaming

    Well try that again with a denon avr and you will get 100ms+ ... its horrible.

  • specops
    specops

    I bet a ton of people would LOVE to know what kind of delay you would get if you use displayport from graphics card to monitor and CLONED signal using HDMI from graphics card to the capture card. Does windows create any extra delay? is it better or worse than using the HDMI passthrough with the 4K60 PRO? can anybody test that please?

  • dtiydr
    dtiydr

    Good sync with the background there at the end.

  • D Grm
    D Grm

    It is widely known that the Radeon 5700 chip has defective HDMI audio when passed through a receiver. The defect is that when passed through a receiver and playing gpu intensive things like games, you will have no issue and audio is fine. But change to a medium that does not tax the gpu like music or video's and you will get audio stutters and drop outs. I returned my MSI 5700 MECH OC back to MSI three times and on the third time I sent a usb stick with with a video of the issue and MSI came back with. Sorry this is a defect with the 5700 chip and there was nothing that they could do about it.